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One Sure Sign of a False Prophet
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One Sure Sign of a False Prophet
The Bible gives us indicators to warn us of “False Prophets” that would attempt to deceive the people of God. In this quick clip below Shane Idleman reveals one of those indicators to identify a “False Prophet”
One Sign of a False Prophet | Pastor Shane Idleman
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Evangelist Todd Bentley Claims Shirtless ‘Financial Angel’ Visited Him in Hotel Room, Another Wrestled Him at Home
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Evangelist Todd Bentley Claims Shirtless ‘Financial Angel’ Visited Him in Hotel Room, Another Wrestled Him at Home
Fresh Fire USA founder and healing evangelist Todd Bentley claimed during a “Supernatural Debt Forgiveness Jubilee Service” Sunday that he has had live encounters with angels during his ministry similar to those experienced by biblical figures, including a visit from a shirtless “financial angel” in a dingy hotel room and another in his home where the angel wrestled him in his bed. “It (angel) appeared to me as a person. A man.
A Shirtless Financial Angel in Tight White Yoga Pants Was in My Hotel Bathroom Says Todd Bentley
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Todd Bentley tells of a time he saw a shirtless financial angel wearing tight white yoga pants and golden slippers in his hotel bathroom.
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So I’m not having a dream. It’s not a trance. I’m wide awake. I’m in my bathroom. And I’ve never had an angelic encounter where it’s like in this world. A messenger from Heaven,” Bentley said in the service of his first encounter with an angel which he said happened in Albany, Oregon, around 2004 or 2005. He explained that at the time he was an evangelist based in Canada and was invited by a group of churches in Oregon to minister due to his reputation as a “miracle healing guy.”
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Evangelist Todd Bentley Claims Shirtless 'Financial Angel' Visited Him in Hotel Room, Another Wrestled Him at Home
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Fresh Fire USA founder and healing evangelist Todd Bentley claimed during a "Supernatural Debt Forgiveness Jubilee Service" Sunday that he has had live encounters with angels during his ministry similar to those experienced by biblical figures, including a visit from a shirtless "financial angel" in a dingy hotel room and another in his home where the angel wrestled him in his bed.

"It (angel) appeared to me as a person. A man. So I'm not having a dream. It's not a trance. I'm wide awake. I'm in my bathroom. And I've never had an angelic encounter where it's like in this world. A messenger from Heaven," Bentley said in the service of his first encounter with an angel which he said happened in Albany, Oregon, around 2004 or 2005.

He explained that at the time he was an evangelist based in Canada and was invited by a group of churches in Oregon to minister due to his reputation as a "miracle healing guy."

During his American tour late one night inside the "dingy" and seedy hotel room where his hosts had booked him, Bentley said he encountered the "financial angel."

"I'm in my hotel and in my bathroom and it's the middle of the night. And I open my hotel room and turn the light on, and there's a man in there, in my bathroom. And I looked at this man, he didn't have his shirt on, so I thought he must've got into the wrong hotel room. First thought. You know 'you're in the wrong room bro.' ... And then realized he was wearing funny like, white yoga pants, like really tight, white ballet-type pants and like Aladdin golden slippers. And I looked down at him and thought 'wow, this isn't a man. This is an angel,'" Bentley recounted.

He then pointed to Scripture to say that his experience had biblical precedent.

"You know this is where you may be entertaining strangers but you're entertaining angels Hebrews 13:5," he said. (The verse he was referring to is actually verse 2, which says: "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.")

"Literally this is like Abraham thought three men came to his tent and it turned out to be the Lord and two angels but he thought it was three men. He like told his wife to go get the fattened calf and you know Genesis 18, he said three men are coming to have dinner with me, they were actually angels. That was what happened to me," he said.
Bentley then continued his testimony of angelic encounters.
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"And so this angel then turned around and I saw like out of the angel's back, wings and feathers like an eagle. And the angel then, the man ... spread his wings and out came four wings. And I looked and inside his wings, feathers — whatever you want to call it — were gemstones of every kind, precious gemstones," he explained, noting that the experience was like something out of a science fiction movie.

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He said the angel then told him: "'I'm like a cherubim and I work in the realms of glory.' And I thought, whoa, OK, why you are here? And he said, 'I'm here to release the glory that will bring a favor that will release supernatural resources for the purpose of kingdom. And I am a financial angel from the highest realms of glory working with Heaven's economy."

Bentley said he later told the host pastor the "international banker angel" had appeared to him in his bathroom in the middle of the night and was told that evangelists Bob Jones and Shawn Bolz were both visited by the same financial angel at the unnamed hotel.

He also talked about another angelic encounter from January 2007 where he was forced to wrestle with a "Spirit of the fear of the Lord" angel in his Vancouver home like Jacob wrestled with the angel from the Bible to bless him.

"I felt like Jacob wrestling with an angel," he said.

"Literally I couldn't scream for help from my wife, from anybody. And this angel now pulled out a sword. Like the sword of the Lord ... and I thought for sure. I braced for it because his sword was going to come down and just slice me in two," he said.

His encounter shifted into a visionary world where the angel cut a chain instead.
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Post  Admin on Sat 08 Oct 2016, 8:48 pm

FALSE CHRISTIANITY
Rick Warren said: “God won't ask about your religious background or doctrinal views”
Said what? Doctrine doesn't matter? So why did the Apostle Paul spend so much time and effort warning us about false doctrines and the doctrines of demons? Why bother to even warn the Galatians who had been influenced and bewitched by the false teachers?
Here are some scriptures of what the chief of the apostles wrote concerning doctrine::
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
2 Timothy 4:3 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;”
Titus 1:9 "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers."
What the Apostle John thought of doctrinal views:
2 John 1:10 "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:"
And God won't ask about doctrinal views? Jesus Christ also who is God, did not agree with Rick Warren regarding the importance of doctrine as we read his words directly to the Church in Pergamum in the Book of Revelation:
Rev 2:14 "But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication."
Rev 2:15 "So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate."
Doctrinal views do matter! Warren's belittling the importance of sound doctrine might explain why so few in his congregation and those who have become Rick Warren Churches, have opposed him...they took his advice of less Bible and more stories and personal testimonies, so they wouldn't recognize heresy if it beat them over the head. And even where the Bible is taught, where they might get grounded to recognize error, they are given diluted and obscured translations which have added to, deleted, subtracted, and completely changed the meaning, to God's Word. So, from Rick Warren's own testimony and advice, we see prophecy of 2 Timothy 4:3 being fulfilled in these Last Days in his own church and in the thousands of churches who believe his statement(s).
2 Timothy 4:3 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;”
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FALSE PREACHING...... NO SUCH THING AS GENERATIONAL CURSE for believers in Christ Jesus.
     THIS IS NOT FILM  TO RECOMMEND TO ANYONE                                                                                                                             Elaine.

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Kenneth Copeland stars in the new film, The Rally: LA as an ex-mobster who finds Jesus and sets out to break generational curses.  
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Several years earlier in The Rally 1—A Change is Coming, Sarka Sr. (Kenneth Copeland), the traditional patriarch of a powerful crime family, suddenly decides to give up his control of the family business and return to the old country for a while. He also wants his son, Junior (T-Bone), to give it up and leave that place and its memories to start a new life with him, but Junior has no intention of giving up his birthright. He bitterly rejects his father's offer. With Sarka gone, Junior steps into his role as head of the family and begins a new era terrorizing their city in a brutal wave of drug trafficking and ruthless violence. In the meantime, Rick (Rick Reyna), with Rallys for Christ, is determined to organize a local rally to bring hope to the devastated community. But, Junior sends his thugs to threaten the rally team because he knows that hope will eventually break the hold he has over the people.
Rallys for Christ Rick Reyna wrote, directed and starred in the film.  
"The devil is trying to stop the Word of God because if we have words from God then faith comes," Reyna says of his work with Rallys. "And if faith comes then we can please God. If we take time to get words from God then faith from God will come." 
According to their website, Rallys for Christ is reaching out with the gospel of Jesus Christ in a way that captivates the lost and brings them to the foot of the cross. It teaches them that there is forgiveness, love, joy and freedom that comes from knowing the real Jesus and making him their personal Lord and Savior.   
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There is a trend in the church who try to blame sin and problem on some sort of generational curse. This is not biblical. 
IT IS KNOWN Some even pay for prayer to be released THIS again is FALSE. 

Christians are being taught that what ails them is a thing called, "generational curses." What this is said to mean is that somewhere in  in your ancestry, there came a curse upon your family, and this curse has been passed down to you. This curse may have been the result of sin, witchcraft, or some other evil thing. But Christians are being told that this kind of, "generational curse," may still exist in their life or family.

Of course, once we accept this teaching about, "generational curses," we are then compelled to go on to the next step: Getting free of them. Usually, we go to some expert on deliverance, or to a pastor, or someone else, to pray for our deliverance. Some people have claimed that all of this has helped them. They claim to be free of things they were not free from before.

One of the passages from the Bible that is pointed to in order to verify, "generational curses," is found in Deuteronomy:

Thou shall not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shall not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. (Deut. 5:8-9)

This sure does sound as if there is such a thing as, "generational curses," doesn’t it? And it sounds like GOD HIMSELF is the cause of them, doesn’t it? 

Sure. But so often people who teach the doctrine of generational curses leave out the very next sentence of this passage:

Deuteronomy 5: 10 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

WE NEED NOT GO ANY FURTHER TO LEARN OF THIS RUBBISH.


Whoever is in Christ Jesus is a New Creation 

2 Corinthians 5:17 King James 2000 Bible
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Darkness and light cannot dwell together.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

In Genesis, God divided the light from the darkness. They can't exist together. Darkness can't stay where there is light. You can't partake of the dark things of this world, and then partake of the Light. He will not fellowship darkness. He assigned the light a place, and time. He assigned darkness a separate place and time. When you walk into a dark room, and turn on the light, it isn't dark anymore. They can't dwell together. If we say we are His, we should walk in the light-the understanding of truth he has given us. We should keep his commandments as we understand them. We understand in HIM is no darkness and because there isn't, we should not walk in darkness, or confusion, or fear.

1John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Romans 6 New King James Version (NKJV)

Dead to Sin, Alive to God
ROMANS 6:  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

BELIEVE IN THE FINISHED WORK OF GOD in CHRIST JESUS
Pray that He will deliver you from unbelief. In Christ, you are already delivered from these things. It is your unbelief, and the disobedience that is the outcome, that is keeping you in the sin. Take care of unbelief, and you will immediately come into contact with the finality of the Cross.

2 Corinthians 10: 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; (2 Cor. 10:3-5)

1 John 1:5
“This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you,

that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.” 
King James Version (KJV)
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Joel Osteen Rebukes Apostles Paul, Peter, and John
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According to Joel Osteen – Pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, these first century apostles are wrong and outdated and he has come out boldly to infer indirectly that Apostles Paul, Peter, and John whom wrote much of the New Testament were wrong and need to be corrected and rebuked.

When asked directly if people whom are openly practicing homosexuals are accepted into the Kingdom, Joel Osteen responded with “Absolutely, anybody is.”

We all need to listen carefully to the words that this “man of God” speaks as he goes on interviews so we too can find the errors in the preaching of the first century apostles.

Joel does acknowledge that some things are “sin” but says, “I don’t address these things from the pulpit. They only come up in interviews.” When asked if openly practicing gay/homosexual people will be accepted into heaven, Joel Osteen responded, “I believe they will.”

He makes no mention of the need for repentance.

Joel Osteen Brings Us Universalism

The doctrine of universalism is the belief that all people are “saved” no matter who you are or what you’ve done.

This is a new version of the “good news” that is MUCH BETTER than the message the Jesus and the Apostles preached 2,ooo years ago which was far too narrow according to the way Joel Osteen explains his “message.”

“I’m for everybody” says Joel Osteen, “I’m not into excluding people. Jesus can reveal himself to anybody.”

The idea is that since no one would be accepted if we are called to be “holy” then all have to be accepted. So goes this logic. This doctrine also believes that all roads lead to heaven so there is no one “way, truth, and life that leads to the father.”

According to Joel, “sin means to miss the mark” which, while technically correct, stands in contrast to the teachings of many writers of the Bible that teach that sin is violation of God’s Holy Laws so if by missing the mark Joel means violating God’s ways, then yes, sin is missing the mark.

According to the out of date writers of the Bible, the “wages of sin is death” for which blood is required and for which a sacrifice was presented.

It sounds a lot more harsh to say SIN is TREASON punishable by death than to say it is “missing the mark” which is a bit incomplete. Sin is also “to incur guilt, incur penalty” which according to the scripture is death.

Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

When asked about people who live in open sin, Joel smilingly said, “I’m not going to bash those people. I’m not going to be against those people. They’re good people.”

So by contrast, Apostle Jude is “bashing people” when he said:

Jude 1:14-16 “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.”

Joel’s wife recently said to Piers Morgan. “It’s the people that we’re after. We’re not trying to judge their sin. We want to encourage them and love them. You’re only going to win people by reaching out to them.”

Isn’t that so awesome! They are all about the people! They want you and I be accepted without having to discuss anything like repentance or righteousness. These are “judgmental” subjects that we just don’t need.

These modern day ministry giants have gone on national television to essentially correct Apostles Peter, John, and Paul to say … they are wrong … if you listen to Joel Osteen. So many across the nation are so proud of this Pastor and his courage in confronting the church fathers!

According to Joel Osteen, Apostle Paul erroneously stated to the Corinthians …

1 Corinthians 6:8-10 “Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

In saying this, according to Joel Osteen, Apostle Paul is being “exclusionary” and should be rebuked and corrected. He is obviously wrong and should never have said these things to the Corinthian church.

Corinth was known for its sexual openness and promiscuity so for Paul to “condemn” all these “good people” was completely out of order and he needs to be rebuked.

When Paul wrote to the Romans he also was in complete error in stating the following in the first chapter of his letter, according to Joel Osteen.

“And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

According to Joel Osteen, Paul was absolutely incorrect and to state that being a homosexual is a sin is being “judgmental” and should not be tolerated. It is just wrong according to Joel Osteen. Many people agree with Joel Osteen today and so, Apostle Paul is apparently misguided and incorrect in his letter.

Joel goes on to point out the additional errors in the words Apostle Paul wrote.

“Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” Paul went on to write in the first chapter of Romans, which according to the words of Joel Osteen, he is deeply misguided and mistaken.

Apostle Paul should repent for saying such things according to Joel Osteen. A growing number of people in America agree with Joel that Apostle Paul should be rebuked for ever saying such things because Paul isn’t accepting of people like Joel Osteen is.

Equally misguided and incorrect according to Joel Osteen is Paul’s words to the Galatian church. In his writings, Apostle Paul made stunning comments that were clearly exclusionary statements concerning the Kingdom and those whom are accepted, and in so doing has made grave error according to Joel Osteen.

See if you can detect the absolutely false statements that Apostle Paul made to the Galatian church according to the stated doctrine of Joel Osteen.

Galatians 5:19-21 “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.“

You can clearly see what has Joel Osteen so unhappy that he’s gone on national television to correct this! It is this type of rhetoric, according to Joel Osteen, that is completely false and misrepresents the God he serves.

Joel Osteen’s God loves everybody and there are no exclusions because then, according to Joel, “none of us would be saved.” So again, Apostle Paul was completely incorrect and should never have written such harsh and insensitive words to the Galatian church according to Joel.

I imagine Joel Osteen would say “shame on Apostle Paul for ever writing such hateful words!”

Now, not only is Joel out to correct the misguided Apostle Paul, but Apostle Peter was also brought into serious question for clearly being exclusionary when he wrote these words.

1 Peter 1:14-16 “As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.”

According to the doctrine Joel Osteen has now shared with us all as “his message,” being clearly more evolved and enlightened than the archaic Apostle Peter, no one can be holy. We are left to conclude that Peter is misguided and is being judgmental. What a terrible yoke and condemnation Apostle Peter is trying to put on the good people he is writing to.

Additionally, Apostle Peter goes on to say things that are completely against the Lakewood Church Pastor’s God when he stated the following.

2 Peter 2:6-8 “And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)”

According to Joel Osteen’s public comments, one could conclude that Apostle Peter was in complete error and deceived when he wrote such things. What a terrible condemnation. He clearly did not know the doctrine that Joel Osteen preaches or he would never have said such awful and critical things.

Joel Osteen indirectly implies (subtly) that these apostles were false and were critical and judgmental and should NOT be listened to in America today. We all need to listen instead to Joel Osteen and Oprah Winfrey.

Now Apostle John made even greater errors if the benchmark is Joel Osteen’s “message” when he stated some of the thing that he wrote which, according to Joel Osteen, is just plain and simply not true.

It takes a lot of courage for Joel to stand against these writings but he believes strongly in his “uplifting and encouraging” doctrine that does not endorse such harsh and judgmental statements as written by these ancient Apostles.



We should all pray for Joel Osteen because he needs our prayers if he’s going to continue to champion the cause of those oppressed and condemned by the writings and statements of Apostles like Paul, Peter and John.

Revelation 21:8 “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

You see, according to Joel Osteen in a recent interview, “God doesn’t see any sin as worse than another” and all are going to heaven. Apparently in Joel Osteen’s bible, he has redacted the unpardonable sin. So if you’re a follower of Joel Osteen’s then this statement by Apostle John must seem just plain wrong.

Apostle John doesn’t know what he’s talking about and we need to listen to the wisdom of Joel Osteen. Apostle John clearly was in error and should be rebuked for suggesting that people who tell lies are going to have their part in the lake of fire.

What was Apostle John thinking writing such judgmental things???

That’s a terrible thing to say and no one, certainly not Apostle John, should be allowed to say such things. As Joel says, “there’s enough condemnation in the world” and we don’t need anymore.

Additionally, in his letter, Apostle John says things like …

1 John 3:8-10 “He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”

Now according to Joel Osteen and the thousands that agree with his “message,” this entire passage should be removed from the pages of the bible and no one should be saying such things. In fact, Joel goes on to share that it is this exact kind of preaching that will hinder “church growth.”

Apostles Paul, Peter, and John listen up. Joel Osteen rebukes you all.

Now listen, Joel Osteen and his ministry in Houston are all about people. He is standing up for your rights! He is taking a REALLY BIG RISK because … if he’s wrong, and Apostle Paul is right … then he stands to be cursed! So he needs your support in prayer NOW!

Galatians 1:9 “As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

Instead, you all need to listen to his message of universal acceptance and lawless living without any condemnation so we can all “lift our spirits” and be “encouraging and loving” to all people no matter what lifestyle or choices they make. After all, according to Joel, God loves us all and everyone is going to heaven so lighten up!

There is no exclusive path to the Kingdom. According to Joel Osteen, we need to hear this message because it’s the right message and anyone that says that there is an exclusive path to God is wrong.

Joel would know, look at the size of his church! He is clearly telling you the truth more than anyone in history.

John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Exactly how much error is too much?

Sources:

Overview of Joel Osteen/Oprah deceptions:https://youtu.be/weEWl52wevI
Joel Osteen meets with Larry King … Here’s the link: https://youtu.be/KwL1DThtxYg
Joel Osteen meets with Piers Morgan … Here’s the link: https://youtu.be/tgCpRNfBzys
To his credit, in this interview Joel does call out sin, however, he softens it and backs away from talking about repentance … and when he is asked “what would you say” his comment is that he doesn’t understand. You’re leading the largest church in America and you don’t understand REPENTANCE?
The quotes are taken right from what Joel himself has spoken. He positions himself on his own without being told how to answer. On the one hand he wants to appease his Christian followers by saying “the bible says” but on the other he clearly fellowships with darkness and facilitates those whom deny the power thereof.

2 Timothy 3:1-7 “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

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I imagine that Paul, Peter, and John would do the same to Mr. Osteen. 

The Apostle Paul: But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. (2Co 11:3-4) 

As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ. (Gal 1:9-10)
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The Christ in Prophecy Journal: Irvin Baxter Evaluated
Lamb and Lion Ministries is a Bible prophecy ministry proclaiming the soon return of Jesus Christ.
Proclaiming the soon return of Jesus Christ
Thursday, June 2, 2011
Irvin Baxter Evaluated
Dr. David R. ReaganPDFBy Dr. David R. Reagan

How do the prophetic teachings of Irvin Baxter, Jr., line up with the Bible?

I have lately started receiving many inquiries concerning the prophecy ministry of Irvin Baxter, Jr., of Endtime Ministries. His ministry Web address is www.endtime.com.


Irvin Baxter, Jr.

Points of Caution

Awhile back when I had originally begun to surf his website, several red flags started popping up. First, I could not find a statement of faith. I looked for a good ten minutes and was about to give up my search, when I stumbled across a statement of faith in a very peculiar location. It was on the page where you enter your name and address to subscribe to his prophecy magazine. It is now located under "About Us."

The statement provoked continuing concern. It was vague and general in nature, consisting of only three sentences. When I run across such statements, they always prompt me to wonder if the person is hiding something. It has been expanded a little bit since.

That question may have been answered by the next red flag I encountered. It was on the ministry's links page, the page where links are supplied to other websites. Only eight links to "religious sites" were supplied, and three of those were links to sites affiliated with the United Pentecostal Church, a group that denies the foundational Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

The third red flag I encountered was also on the links page. I noticed that there was not a single link to another prophecy ministry. (We have over 25 links to other prophetic ministries on our web site and many links to Messianic ministries, many of which are prophetic in nature.) This glaring omission caused me to assume that Mr. Baxter must have some off-the-wall prophetic interpretation that no one else agrees with. That assumption was to prove true.


Personalized Interpretations

The meat of the website is to be found on the "Frequently Asked Questions" page, now titled "Urgent Questions." It doesn't take long to discover that Mr. Baxter is a person with a very personal and unique interpretation of Bible prophecy, something we are warned against in the Scriptures (2 Peter 1:20).

It would take more space than I have available to summarize and counter all of Mr. Baxter's unusual interpretations of prophecy, so I will mention only a few.

He denies that Revelation is written in chronological order. He does not, therefore, believe that the Seal Judgments will be followed by the Trumpet Judgments during the first three and one half years of the Tribulation — as the plain sense meaning of Revelation indicates. He takes this position because he argues that several of both the Seal Judgments and the Trumpet Judgments have already taken place!

The normal, plain sense interpretation of Revelation 6 is that it marks the beginning of the Tribulation with the Antichrist going forth on a white horse to conquer the world. A world war ensues, and one-fourth of the world's population dies from war (the red horse), famine (the black horse), pestilence and wild beasts.

Mr. Baxter argues that the fulfillment of the Seal Judgments has nothing to do with the Tribulation. He asserts that the fulfillment of these judgments began in 325 AD when the Emperor Constantine presided over a Church Council that produced the Nicene Creed (a creed, interestingly enough, that laid the foundation for the doctrine of the Trinity). In short, he identifies the white horse of Revelation 6 as Roman Catholicism, the black horse as Capitalism, and the red horse as Communism. This all makes for very interesting reading, but it simply is not sustained by the text, for it violates the plain sense meaning.

Another example of Baxter's off-the-wall style of interpretation is found in his assertion that the world empires revealed to Daniel in Daniel 2 include the Holy Roman Empire. He sees the succession as Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, the Roman Empire, and the Holy Roman Empire. That is not the succession portrayed in Daniel 2. The Roman Empire is followed by an empire of iron mixed with clay — representing the unstable, final world empire of the Antichrist. The proof that this is the last empire of history is found in the fact that this is the empire that is suddenly destroyed by a stone that represents the kingdom of Jesus Christ when He returns.

There is no place in the scenario for the Holy Roman Empire, which was an empire in name only. Baxter tries to insert the Holy Roman Empire because he wants to argue that it is the one that will be revived in the end times, rather than the Roman Empire. And he tries to advance this argument so that he can sustain his contention that the "fatal would that will be healed," referred to in Revelation 13:3, is a reference to the Berlin Wall being removed so that Germany (which was the heart of the Holy Roman Empire) could be reunited.

Mr. Baxter does further damage to the book of Daniel when he contends that the symbols used in chapter 7 refer to Great Britain, Russian, and Germany. Again, this runs contrary to the plain sense meaning of the passage. In Daniel 7, God gives Daniel a vision of the same succession of empires as he was given in chapter 2. The difference is that in chapter 2 they are seen from the viewpoint of Man — as glorious political kingdoms — whereas in chapter 7 they are presented from the viewpoint of God — as ravenous wild beasts.

One of the strangest statements on Mr. Baxter's website concerns the Rapture. In response to a question about the timing of the Rapture, he says, "Unfortunately, rapture timing debates between brothers in Christ often become divisive, and for this reason, Entime has chosen to avoid the issue for now." I was astonished by this non-answer. Here is a person with an opinion on everything in the prophetic scriptures, yet he chooses to "avoid" one of the most important issues! It didn't make any sense to me.

I was even more astonished when I continued reading, for in the very next paragraph, Mr. Baxter states that he believes that the Rapture and the Second Coming are "the same event." Well, if they are the same event, then the Rapture must take place at the end of the Tribulation — so much for "avoiding" the issue.

To sustain this position, Mr. Baxter proceeds to try to explain away some passages that imply a pre-Tribulation Rapture. In doing so, he presents the most peculiar and bizarre interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2 that I have ever run across. The passage states that the Antichrist cannot be revealed until that which restrains him is removed. I believe this is talking about the Church since the Church is the entity that the Holy Spirit works through to restrain evil in the world. Mr. Baxter contends that the restrainer is "time." Yes, time! It's just not the right time for the Antichrist to be revealed, he says, and when the time is right, the revelation will occur. Well, I would agree with that, but the statement fails to deal with the question of what is going to be removed? How do you remove time?

Mr. Baxter' approach to prophetic interpretation makes it clear why the plain sense meaning rule is so important. That rule states: "If the plain sense makes sense, don't look for any other sense, or you will end up with nonsense." As with Mr. Baxter, you will end up with a very personal interpretation that no other prophecy teacher is willing to endorse.

I urge caution with regard to Mr. Baxter and his unique interpretations. Remember 2 Peter 1:20 — "No prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation." Frank Stagg in his book, How to Understand the Bible, says, "God does not grant private disclosures that are withheld from other people."

1 Corinthians 14:29 says that when a prophet speaks, his words are to be evaluated by others, for "the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets" (1 Corinthians 14:32). This essay has been written in the spirit of that admonition. I am thankful that Mr. Baxter is emphasizing the Lord's soon return, but at the same time I urge great caution regarding his very personal interpretations of Bible prophecy.

Dr. David R. Reagan at 6/02/2011 08:57:00 AM
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An Appeal to Joel and Victoria Osteen
9:30AM EDT 9/10/2014    MICHAEL BROWN
Joel and Victoria Osteen (Lakewood Church, Facebook)
Dear Joel and Victoria, I hope and pray that you will read this letter and that you take to heart the things I'm sharing. I write as a friend wanting to help, not an enemy wanting to hurt, and everything I write, I write out of love for God, love for you, and love for the church and the world.


I have said many times that I'm glad to see your smiling faces on TV as you speak about Jesus rather than some stern-faced, joyless, angry Christian leader. And I believe you genuinely do care about people and want them to find wholeness in the Lord.


Joel, I appreciate the fact that you end every service by asking people to get right with God, having them pray a prayer where they say to Jesus, "I repent of my sins, come into my heart, I make you Lord and Savior."


The big problem is that you haven't told them what their sins are, and you haven't told them what real repentance is. And since you are speaking to people around the world, you can't possibly assume that all of them understand the meaning of sin and redemption and repentance. (Most American Christians don't even understand these things today.)


In short, you have not shared with them the whole counsel of God, and by telling them only part of the story, you have done what the false prophets of ancient Israel did: "You superficially treat the fracture of My people saying to them, 'All is well, all is well,' when nothing is well" (Jer. 6:14, my translation).


A true physician tells his patients what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. As one preacher of old, Jean Daille, once said, "Ministers are not cooks, but physicians and therefore should not study to delight the palate, but to recover the patient."


Have you been more of a junk-food cook than a physician? Have you been afraid to tell people their true condition? Have you been so concerned with making them feel good about themselves and giving them a sense of hope that you failed to diagnose their terminal sin disease?


Paul said to the elders of Ephesus, "I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:26-27).


Do you really believe in your heart of hearts that you have declared the whole counsel of God to your listening audience?


God has given you one of the largest platforms for the gospel in human history. Can you say before Him that you are "innocent of the blood of all"?


Have you ever taught extensively on the words of Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount? Have you ever worked your way through one of the letters of Paul? If not, why not?


Proverbs tells us that, "Whoever rebukes a man will afterward find more favor than he who flatters with his tongue" (28:23). Do you believe God's Word, or do you feel you have found a better way to do His work?


I appreciate the fact that you hold up your Bible before you preach, as your father did, and you have people make a confession about God's Word, as you also learned to do from your father. But do you really preach that holy Word?


Shortly before Paul was martyred for his faith, he reminded Timothy that, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Tim. 3:16).


He also gave him this solemn commission: "I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching" (2 Tim. 4:1-2).


Is this your pattern of preaching and ministry? Do you rebuke in love (Prov. 27:5) as well as exhort and encourage?


Perhaps it's time to ask yourself honestly where you fit in this warning from Paul: "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths" (2 Tim. 4:1-4).

Wouldn't it be utterly heartbreaking if, on the day you stand before God, you discovered that you were one of these teachers? Wouldn't it be tragic if your efforts were found to be wood, hay and stubble on that great and glorious Day (1 Cor. 3:11-15)? And may I ask you candidly if you even talk about that holy day of accounting?

Some Christians have referred to you and Victoria as outright heretics, others have said that you are fighting against the Holy Spirit (since the Spirit convicts the world of sin but your preaching does not), others have said that you are a pagan religionist, while others have said that your superficial message of material prosperity cannot bear the weight of the gospel.


These are very serious charges, but rather than just saying, "Hey, I'm just going to love everybody and stay in my lane," perhaps you should ask if these leaders might be saying something you need to hear. Is there any truth at all in their words? Could it be that God's lane for you is different than the lane you're in?


It would be far better for you to see your TV ratings fall and your crowds dwindle than to displease the Lord. (Perhaps if you preached the whole counsel of God, your audience would end up even bigger.)


By all means, you should be an ambassador of hope and joy—that's all part of the gospel—but if you don't speak about sin plainly and without compromise and if you don't tell people that there will be suffering and hardship in this world as we follow Jesus, then the hope that you offer will only go skin deep.


Have you ever wondered about how your message plays out among Christians who are going through hell on Earth because of their faith in Jesus? Have you ever thought about what your message sounds like to persecuted believers today who just had to leave their homes and possessions behind to flee for their lives?


And Victoria, if I may speak with you for just a moment, your recent comments that have gone viral
have drawn a stream of well-deserved criticism, even if some of it came in an ugly and wrong spirit.


The reality is that our lives are supposed to revolve around God; He doesn't revolve around us. And even though worship and praise are good for us too, since they focus our attention on who God is and bring us into His presence, we do not worship or serve Him for ourselves but for Him. As Paul wrote, Jesus died for all so "that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised" (2 Cor. 5:15).


This is Gospel 101, as basic as it gets, yet you turned things upside down during that one regrettable moment on TV, a moment that reflected a wrong, off-base theology that starts with us and that says God is here to please us rather than starting with God and recognizing that we are here to please Him.


Joel and Victoria, I know these words have been strong, but they are written with love and concern.
And since I have no connection to anyone on your team and I don't know of any way to reach you directly, after prayer and reflection, I felt that this was the best way to go, addressing public statements publicly, jealous for the Name of Jesus, jealous for your massive listening audience, and jealous for both of you.


Without a doubt, there are many people you have helped; you have also hurt far more than you realize. I pray you will take this to heart.


Michael Brown is author of Can You Be Gay and Christian? Responding With Love and Truth to Questions About Homosexuality and host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show The Line of Fire on the Salem Radio Network. He is also president of FIRE School of Ministry and director of the Coalition of Conscience. Follow him at AskDrBrown on Facebook or at @drmichaellbrown on Twitter.

Unless otherwise specified, the opinions expressed are solely the author's and do not necessarily reflect the views of Charisma Media.
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Joel Osteen: Moses Saw Sun Stand Still for Joshua, Hebrews Thrown in Fiery Furnace
Author and megachurch speaker Joel Osteen raised eyebrows this week when he wrote on his popular Facebook page that Moses was present to see the sun stand still under Joshua’s leadership and that he witnessed the Hebrew boys being thrown into the fiery furnace.


“God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ Osteen, leader of the 43,000 member Lakewood Church, posted on Monday, and then proceeded to expound. “He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

The status received over 317,000 likes from his more than 8 million followers, and was shared over 52,000 times. A number of followers also agreed heartily with Osteen’s teaching in the comments section.

However, some began to notice that there was something not quite right about Osteen’s statement: Moses was dead when two out of the three cited events occurred.

“People! Moses was long dead before any of these things happened!” one commenter named Josh wrote. “You actually trust this man to be a solid teacher when he doesn’t even know something this basic?”


“Moses wasn’t even around when the sun stood still for Joshua; by that time, Moses was dead. And neither was he around when the Hebrew boys were put in the furnace,” wrote another named Leah. “Joel Osteen Ministries and the rest of y’all who gave them an amen, do any of y’all even read the Bible?”

A follower named Pamela also caught a third error in Osteen’s statement: Moses wasn’t seeking God for water in Numbers 11, but rather food.

“Moses wasn’t praying for rain, the people of Israel were asking for meat instead of manna in Numbers 11:23,” she wrote.
While all agreed that Osteen’s exhortation that “there is no limit to God’s power” is true, some were concerned about the megachurch leader’s knowledge of the Scriptures.

“You’d think a preacher of all people would know what’s actually in the Bible,” wrote a commenter named Steven. “Apparently that’s just wayyyy too much to ask.”

But others were also concerned that hundreds of thousands of followers saw nothing wrong with Osteen’s post.
“Oh man, 314,021 likes,” wrote a commenter named Alex.

“The same people who think Joel Osteen is a legitimate teacher of God’s word are the same people who, like him, either don’t read the Bible or read it with flawed, man-centered presuppositions,” added a man named Joshua. “This guy has been teaching for how long? How many people have liked this post?”

One follower asked that Osteen delete the post, advising that it would be “weird” to leave it online. The status now no longer appears on Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook page, but is accessible in a cached version.

As previously reported, Osteen’s wife Victoria also came under criticism in recent weeks after a video clip surfaced of the “co-pastor” exhorting the congregation that obedience and worship aren’t as much for God as they are for self-happiness.
“I just want to encourage every one of us to realize when we obey God, we’re not doing it for God—I mean, that’s one way to look at it—we’re doing it for ourselves, because God takes pleasure when we’re happy,” she declared in the undated 36-second clip with her husband standing by her side and nodding. “That’s the thing that gives Him the greatest joy…

“So, I want you to know this morning: Just do good for your own self. Do good because God wants you to be happy,Osteen continues. “When you come to church, when you worship Him, you’re not doing it for God really. You’re doing it for yourself, because that’s what makes God happy. Amen?”
After online outrage erupted over her comments, Osteen issued a statement outlining that while she “could have been more articulate” in her teaching, “I stand by my point that when we worship God and are obedient to Him we will be better for it.”
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