Re: FocusZerich req: Justification, Santification,Propitiation

Aquiness Tue 17 Feb 2009, 10:42 pm

Hi Steve,

"Justification is one aspect of salvation, which is a one off experience."

2 Cor-4-16..." For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man is corrupted, yet the inward man is renewed day by day."

Though our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature is being renewed "every day." This not only proves that justification is internal...not legal and external, but that it is also ongoing....it's not a one-time event of accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior. Our inner nature is being renewed every day as we persevere in faith, hope and love.

God Bless

Jan

Aquiness Tue 17 Feb 2009, 10:37 pm

James 1-22-25..." But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if a man be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he shall be compared to a man beholding his own countenance in a glass. 24 For he beheld himself, and went his way, and presently forgot what manner of man he was. 25 But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed. "

It's the "doers" who are justified, not the hearers. Justification is based on what we do, which means "works." Notice that there is nothing about "false faith." The hearers may have faith, but they need to accompany their faith by works, or they will not be justified.

Rom 2-13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Admin Sat 17 Jan 2009, 4:24 pm

From: openairpreacherman Sent: 07/04/2006 20:02
Yes you are still justified but you fellowship with Christ will be marred as you have told a lie. Justification is one aspect of salvation, which is a one off experience.

Justification is a declaration by a judge about the person standing before him, (who was previously guilty) that they are not guilty. They are in a right relation with the judge they are 'righteous'.

Steve

Admin Sat 17 Jan 2009, 4:23 pm

From: Zerich Sent: 07/04/2006 16:38
Elaine,I have heard that said, "Just as if I ", all my life, and THIS is the first time I have actually caught the JUSTIFIED word break down. That is amazing to me. After all these years of hearing that.
Now a little entry to ponder.You are saved. Been justified, Just as if you had never sinned. You wake up one morning on a sunday, and just flat do not desire to get dressed and go to church. The next day, you see the pastors wife at the store.
"Why did you miss church yesterday?"
" I really didn't feel very well."
WHOOPS !!!!
Are you still justified? How far into the future are you still justified? ZERICH

Admin Sat 17 Jan 2009, 4:23 pm

From: Dunggate Sent: 07/04/2006 10:29
Zerich this is a great idea thank you. People can add to the thread their study findings and thoughts. I will take from your list and begin with:

JUSTIFICATION
Just a little thought that popped into my mind. Going way back some 24 years. I remember attending a bible study and the word Justification came up.....What Roy said have stuck in my memory.
Christ our Redeemer Justified.....Just as if I ...........
had never sinned.
What an awesome Saviour.
Elaine.

Admin Sat 17 Jan 2009, 4:21 pm

From: openairpreacherman Sent: 07/04/2006 09:44
True Zerich, The meaning of words is very important.

Steve

Admin Sat 17 Jan 2009, 4:20 pm

From: Zerich (Original Message) Sent: 07/04/2006 00:34
I have been doing a lot if thinking lately and think a study of meanings of some important Christian words might make a good study. By this I mean words like Justification, Santification,Propitiation, even like Grace and Glory. Just a thought!! An example. Glory.The Old Testament talks of the Chakinah Glory coming in the temple.(Likely Mispelled).

ZERICH

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