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The Trial of Jesus Christ

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Introduction


Unlike the wildly disparate birth narratives,
The birth narratives aren't disparate. When understood correctly they are in perfect harmony and reveal the true dates of the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus. Understanding of the truth, however, requires knowledge of scriptures from the Old and New Testaments.
or the confused resurrection narratives,
The resurrection scriptures aren't confusing when understood correctly. Each of the gospels present a different time when different people were at the tomb and it was empty. He has Risen!!!
Mary Magdalene was there while it was still dark. She, Peter and John saw an empty tomb. Mary Magdalene encountered Jesus in His resurrected body before He had ascended back to Heaven. (John 20:1-18)
Mary Magdalene and Mary the Mother of Jesus went to the tomb together as it was beginning to dawn toward Sunday. The guards from the fourth watch - 3 AM to 6 AM - were still at the tomb. This watch is called morning because it ends when morning begins. The hours of the Hebrew day of Sunday - 6 AM to 6 PM - had not yet begun when Mary Magdalene and Mary the Mary of Jesus encountered Jesus in His resurrected body after He had ascended to Heaven and returned. It was in the hours of Saturday after the Sabbath had ended at 6 PM and before 6 AM. Saturday ends at 6 AM when Sunday begins. Sunday had not begun because the guards were still at the tomb. (Matthew 28:1-15)
KJV Matthew 28:1

In the end of the (Saturday) sabbath, (in the night hours of Saturday that were at the end of the Sabbath - 6 PM until 6 AM) as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (before dawn - before 6 AM on Sunday) came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (the mother of Jesus) to see the sepulchre.
Jesus remained on earth 40 days after His resurrection on Nisan 17. He ascended back to Heaven on Iyyar 27.
KJV John 20:1
The first day of the week
The first day of the week on the Hebrew Calendar and Hebrew Time Chart is Saturday from 6 PM until 6 AM - the evening - and Sunday from 6 AM until 6 PM - the morning. The evening and the morning were one day called the first day of the week. (Genesis 1:5) The first twelve hours of the first day of the week on the Hebrew Calendar and Time Chart are Saturday not Sunday. The tomb was found empty and Jesus was seen in His resurrected body before the day hours of Sunday had begun in 30 AD.
cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
the four gospels present a roughly similar story of Jesus' arrest and trial. All have Jesus arrested at night after the Last Supper. All have Jesus appearing before a Jewish council, and all have Jesus appearing before the Roman governor, Pilate. When we try to establish the exact sequence of events, however, we quickly run into a problem. The gospels each add their own details to the story. On occasion these details conflict with one another to such an extent that an exact sequence of events cannot be established.
An exact sequence of events can be established. There are no conflicts in the details of the gospel accounts when they are understood correctly. There are misunderstandings but no conflicts.
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The Trial of Jesus Christ


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Information at the above link shows what is believed to be scriptures (within the gospels about the night before the day of the death of Jesus) that are contradictory. Those views will be put forth here with information that illustrates there are no contradictions in God's word. There are, however, mistranslations and misunderstandings.



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Source Brenda at Jesus Place Delphi Forum
Mistranslations - Misunderstandings
from lack of understanding of our Hebraic Roots

The months, days and time in the Bible are based on our Hebraic Roots. Jesus came to earth as a Jewish man. The Holy Spirit inspired the scriptures to Jewish men who documented them. The months, days and times in the scriptures are based on God's Hebrew-Jewish Calendar and God's Hebrew-Jewish Time Chart.

The sixth hour of Hebrew Time is not in the morning. The sixth hour of Hebrew Time is midnight or noon. The sixth hour of Roman Time is 6 AM.

Accurate Translations

Young's Literal Translation John 19:14
and it was the preparation of the passover,

(Nisan 13/14 is the Lord’s Passover. This verse is a reference to the night of the trial and sentencing of Jesus. It was during the night hours of Nisan 14 which are on Nisan 13. It was the night before the crucifixion and death of Jesus during the day hours of Nisan 14. Nisan 14 (the Lord's Passover) is the day of preparation for the Annual High Sabbath - the first day of Passover.)

and as it were the sixth hour, (midnight or noon on Hebrew Time but this time is 6 AM based on Pilate's Roman time) and he (Pontus Pilate) saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!'

KJV Mark 15

25 And it was the third hour, (9:00 AM on Nisan 14 the day of preparation for the Annual High Sabbath – the first day of Passover) and they crucified him.

. . .

33 And when the sixth hour (noon) was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (3 PM).

34. And at the ninth hour (3 PM) Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? . . .

37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

Mistranslations - Misunderstandings:

Weymouth New Testament – John 19:14
It was the day of Preparation for the Passover, about six o'clock in the morning. Then he said to the Jews, "There is your king!"

New Living Translation (©2007) – John 19:14
It was now about noon on the day of preparation for the Passover. And Pilate said to the people, "Look, here is your king!"

Jesus was nailed to the cross at 9 AM on the day of preparation for the Annual High Sabbath. At noon darkness covered the land while Jesus was still on the cross until He died at 3 PM. It could not have been noon when Pontius Pilate said, "Look, here is your king!"

International Standard Version (©2008) – John 19:14
Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He said to the Jews, "Here is your king!"

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) - John 19:14
The time was about 6 o'clock in the morning on the Friday of the Passover festival. Pilate said to the Jews, "Look, here's your king!"

Mistranslation

John 19:14

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The time was about six o'clock in the morning on the Friday of the Passover festival. Pilate said to the Jews, "Look, here's your king!"


Jesus was before Pontus Pilate on Nisan 13 the evening that begins Nisan 14. He was nailed to the cross on Nisan 14 at 9 AM. At noon darkness covered the land while Jesus was still on the cross until He died at 3 PM.



The Truth



John 19:14

Paraphrased Accurate Translation

The time was Tuesday (in 30 AD) before the crucifixion on Wednesday. It was during the night hours of the evening that begins the Lord’s Passover when Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king.”

The night hours are 6 PM to 6 AM on Nisan 13 the evening that begins Nisan 14. Jesus was before Pontius Pilate from 3 AM until 6 AM. At 6 AM the night hours of the date end as the day hours of the date begin.

and as it were the sixth hour, (midnight or noon on Hebrew Time; 6 AM Roman Time) and he (Pontius Pilate) saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!'
Zerich Added
OK... I have a stupid Question, but a serious one non-the less.

Wouldn't this be noon rather than Midnight? Don't these people sleep rather than having a meeting at midnight?

edited to include Roman sixth hour of 6 AM
sparrow replied

Hi Zerich:

Actually, it is a very good question and does support what Brenda has been teaching. Scripture indicates the arrest of Jesus happened at night time.

Matthew 26:40,43 and 45 tells us the Disciples had fallen asleep and couldn't keep their eyes open. Bed time is suggested here.

Then, John writes in 18:3, speaking of the guards who came to arrest Jesus, "They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons." Again, this refers to a night time arrest. They took Jesus first to Annas........so, things continued to move right along during the night hours.

I would surmise the chief priests and Pharisees probably determined night time would be a good time for an arrest, and Judas knew just where they most likely would be resting for the night.

sparrow

Brenda said
Amen, Sparrow!!!

You have explained it very well. In the night hours of Nisan 14 - from 6 PM until 6 AM on Nisan 13 - were when the events that led to the crucifixion of Jesus the next morning at 9 AM took place.

Trial and Sentencing of Jesus: Nisan 13

during the night hours, from 6 PM until 6 AM, for

Nisan 14 – the Lord’s Passover –

the day of preparation for the Annual High Sabbath which is the first day of Passover - Nisan 15 (Nisan 14/15)




KJV Matthew 26



30 And when they (Jesus and the eleven disciples) had sung an hymn, (as the Passover Meal – the Last Supper with the disciples before His death - was ending) they went out into the mount of Olives.



31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
32 But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.


33 Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.

34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.Before being betrayed, arrested, tried and sentenced Jesus prayed three (3) times in the Garden of Gethsemane. (Matthew 26:36-46) After Jesus prayed He was betrayed by Judas, arrested and taken to the High Priest Annas. (John 18:13) Annas sent Jesus to His son-in-law the High Priest Caiaphas. (John 18:24) (Luke 3:2)

Peter denied knowing Jesus three (3) times while He was being tried before the High Priest Caiaphas. His denial is recorded in each of the four gospels. (Matthew 26:75) (Mark ) (Mark 14:16-72) (Luke 22:54) (John 18:12-27) The scriptures covering the events on Nisan 13/14, the day of the Lord’s Passover are also in each of the four gospels. (Matthew 26 and 27) (Mark 14 and 15) (Luke 22 and 23) (John 18 and 19)

Pilate found no fault in Jesus and sent Him to Herod for judgment when he discovered Jesus was from Galilee and under the jurisdiction of Herod Antipas. Herod sent Jesus back to Pilate. The scriptures indicate that Jesus was before Pontius Pilate, Herod and them Pilate again from 3 AM until 6 AM. It was during the fourth night watch called morning. After Pilate pronounced judgment he returned Jesus to the custody of the Jewish people for His crucifixion. The Roman Soldiers carried out the sentence.
KJV John 19


10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?

11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
KJV John 19

13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.

14 And it was the preparation of the passover,




(It was during the night hours of the Lord’s Passover – Nisan 14 - that begins at 6 PM on Nisan 13. Nisan 14 is the first day of unleavened bread – Exodus 12:18 - and the day the Passover Lamb is to be killed – Exodus 12:6 - Mark 14:12. It is the day of preparation for the Annual High Sabbath – the first day of Passover – Nisan 15 – that begins at 6 PM on Nisan 14.)




and about the sixth hour: (midnight or noon based on Hebrew Time, 6 AM based on Pilate's Roman Time) and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!




The cock crows between midnight and 3 AM. The third watch – Watch 3 – of the night is called the cock-crowing. Jesus was taken to Pilate after the cock-crowing. It was the time of the fourth watch of the night that is called morning. It is from 3 AM until 6 AM; it ends at sunrise.




During the night hours of Nisan 14 – Nisan 13 from to 6 PM until 6 AM – Jesus ate the Passover Meal with the disciples, prayed 3 times in the Garden of Gethsemane, was betrayed, arrested, tried and sentenced to death by crucifixion.


It was unlawful for the Jewish people to convict a person during the night. Yet, Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin did. Jesus was found guilty of blasphemy based on the manner in which information from John 2:20 was brought forward under the testimony of two false witnesses. Pontius Pilate sentenced Him to death by crucifixion under pressure from the Jewish people even though He personally continued to find no fault in Him. When Jesus was taken to Pilate His guilt was stated as sedition.

Hi Zerich,

Your question is a good one. Here are two of the previous contradictory mistranslations along with an explanation of the time.

International Standard Version (©2008) – John 19:14
Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He said to the Jews, "Here is your king!"


Jesus was already on the cross at noon on the preparation day for the Passover. By noon Jesus would have been on the cross for 3 hours. He was nailed to the cross at 9 AM. From noon until 3 PM He was on the cross as darkness covered the land for 3 more hours. Jesus died at 3 PM. It was 3 hours before the first day of Passover - the Annual High Sabbath - which begins at 6 PM on Nisan 14.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The time was about 6 o'clock in the morning on the Friday of the Passover festival. Pilate said to the Jews, "Look, here's your king!"

Jesus was not arrested, tried and sentenced on a Thursday or Friday before the Passover festival. He died before the Annual High Sabbath, the first day of Passover and not before the weekly Saturday Sabbath that begins at 6 PM on Friday. In 30 AD He was tried and sentenced on Tuesday, Nisan 13. The verdict of guilty was confirmed Wednesday morning along with the sentence of crucifixion. Jesus then died on Wednesday at 3 PM. It was 6 AM Roman Time when Pilate said to the Jewish people, "Behold your King" and Jesus was turned over to the people for crucifixion. At 6 AM the night hours end as the morning hours begin.

John 19:14: Paraphrased Accurate Translation

The time was Tuesday in 30 AD before the crucifixion on Wednesday. It was at 6 AM, as the night hours ended and the morning hours began on the Lord’s Passover when Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king.”

The Lord's Passover - Nisan 14 - is from 6 PM on Nisan 13 until 6 PM on Nisan 14. Jesus was before Pontius Pilate during the night hours on Nisan 13. It went before Pilate then to Herod and back to Pilate during the hours of the night watch called morning - 3 AM to 6 PM - on Nisan 13. Nisan 13 begins Nisan 14. Nisan 14 begins the first day of Passover - the Annual High Sabbath - at 6 PM. The first day of Passover begins as the Lord's Passover ends. The first day of Passover is from 6 PM on Nisan 14 until 6 PM on Nisan 15.

Those words were spoken at 6 AM. The Hebrew Time Chart shows 6 o'clock to be the twelfth hour not the sixth hour. The sixth hour is midnight or noon. But, Pilate's sixth hour is based on Roman time 6 AM. See http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/Hebrew_Time_Chart.pdf
Please Note

Brenda said:The posts on this thread from the first one to here have been edited. The Delphi Filter eliminated some of the important information that had to be typed back into the posted information.
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Introduction

. . . the four gospels present a roughly similar story of Jesus' arrest and trial. All have Jesus arrested at night after the Last Supper. All have Jesus appearing before a Jewish council, and all have Jesus appearing before the Roman governor, Pilate. When we try to establish the exact sequence of events, however, we quickly run into a problem. The gospels each add their own details to the story. On occasion these details conflict with one another to such an extent that an exact sequence of events cannot be established.


The gospels are in agreement and are in no way contradictory or in conflict. The agreement among the gospels can be seen when the scriptures are accurately understood. Understanding the Old and New Testament scriptures, and our Hebraic Roots that include Jewish customs and traditions, the Hebrew Calendar and the Hebrew Time Chart, enable us to see the truth about these events and the agreement among the four gospels.
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The following tables list the sequence of events as recorded by each gospeller. A blank indicates that the gospel writer does not mention that event, or places it in a different sequence.

The Last Supper

Matthew
Mark
Luke
John

Last Supper, first day of the feast of unleavened bread. (Matthew 26:17)
Last Supper, first day of the feast of unleavened bread. (Mark 14:12)
Last Supper, first day of the feast of unleavened bread. (Luke 22:7)
Last Supper, the day before the Passover. (John 13:1)
The day before the Passover - Nisan 14 - is the first day of the feast (appointed time) of unleavened bread - Exodus 12:18. The first day of Passover is Nisan 15.
First Day of Passover is not First Day of Unleavened Bread

The Gospels are unanimous in beginning the story of Jesus' trial with the Last Supper. The three synoptic Gospels place this event on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, i.e. the first day of the Passover (Matthew 26:17, Mark 14:12, Luke 22:7). Matthew, Mark and Luke agree that the Last Supper was a Passover meal (Matthew 26:19, Mark 14:16, Luke 22:15). John, however, does not state that the disciples celebrated the Passover with Jesus. Instead, he has the Last Supper taking place on the day before the Passover, thus making his chronology one day earlier than the other Gospels. (John 13:1, John 18:28)
The Last Supper did take place before Passover. It was in the evening of the first day of the appointed time of unleavened bread. (Exodus 12:15 and verse 18) The first day of the appointed time of unleavened bread is Nisan 14 the day of the Lord's Passover not the day of the first day of Passover.

Matthew, Mark and Luke agree that the Last Supper was a Passover Meal and it was. John has the Last Supper taking place the day before the Passover. The gospels are in full agreement. The first day of the appointed time of unleavened bread and the time of the last supper is before the first day of Passover.

In other words, Nisan 14, the date of the Lord's Passover, Nisan 13/14, is the first day of unleavened bread and the date when the Passover Lamb is to be killed. It is called the Lord's Passover. The Last Supper was eaten in the night hours of Nisan 13 that begin Nisan 14. Nisan 14, the Lord's Passover, is the day of preparation for the first day of Passover. The Lord's Passover is the day before the first day of Passover. The first day of Passover begins at 6 PM on Nisan 14 and ends at 6 PM on Nisan 15.


As stated, the first day of unleavened bread is also the day the Passover Lamb is to be killed, Nisan 13/14. Jesus ate the Passover Meal called the Last Supper with the disciples on the evening of Nisan 13 after 6 PM in the night hours of the Lord's Passover. It was the night He was betrayed, arrested, tried and sentenced to crucifixion.


Nisan 13/14 is the day of preparation for the first day of Passover – the Annual High Sabbath – which is on Nisan14/15. The first day of Passover begins at 6 PM on Nisan 14 as the Lord’s Passover, the first day appointed to eat unleavened bread and the day the Passover Lamb is killed, ends.

The Lord’s Passover is called the day of preparation for the first day of Passover which is different from the Lord’s Passover. The Lord’s Passover is the date when leaven is removed from the homes and the lamb is killed in preparation for the memorial Passover Meal to be eaten the evening that begins Nisan 14/15. The memorial Passover Meal is to remember the Exodus and the death of Jesus that freed God's people from bondage.

The last lamb was killed in the temple at the time Jesus died on the cross - 3 PM. The lamb being roasted in preparation for the Passover Meal and leaven is removed from the homes before the first day of Passover begins. That date, the first day of Passover, begins on Nisan 14 at 6 PM when the Lord's Passover ends at 6 PM.

KJV Mark 14:12


And the first day of unleavened bread,

when they killed the passover,

(Nisan 14 – Nisan 13/14) his disciples said unto him,

Where wilt thou that we go and prepare

that thou mayest eat the passover?

KJV Luke 22:7


Then came the day of unleavened bread,

when the passover must be killed.

KJV 2 Chronicles 35:1

Moreover Josiah kept a passover unto the Lord in Jerusalem: and

they killed the passover (lamb) on the fourteenth day of the first month (Nisan 14).

KJV Exodus 12:6

And ye shall keep it (the Passover Lamb) up until the fourteenth day of the same month: (until Nisan 14) and the whole assembly of the congregation of shall kill it in the evening (between the evenings).


KJV Leviticus 23:5

In the fourteenth day of the first month (Nisan 14)

at even is the Lord's passover.
KJV Ezekiel 45
21 In the first month, (Nisan) in the fourteenth day of the month, (Nisan 14) ye shall have the passover, a feast (an appointed time) of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.


22 And upon that day (on Nisan 14 in the day hours) shall the prince (Jesus) prepare (kill) for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

The Appointed Time of Unleavened Bread
KJV Exodus 12:15

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread;

(Nisan 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20) even the first day (the first day appointed to eat unleavened bread – Nisan 14) ye shall put away leaven out of your houses:

KJV Exodus 12:18
In the first month, on the
fourteenth day of the month at even, (Nisan 14) ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month (Nisan 21)
at even.

KJV Leviticus 23:6

And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast (appointed time) of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread (from Nisan 14 until Nisan 21 – until the seventh day Annual Sabbath – Exodus 12:18).

Unleavened Bread - Lord's Passover

First Day of Passover

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